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Thursday, 14 March 2013

Equinox Top 5 Lists -


Equinox Top 5 Lists -

So here we go again folks – what every avid tournament goer has been waiting for my top 5 Equinox lists!  There were actually some hard picks to formulate the top 5 and I don’t think there is much between the top 15 lists in the field.  These choices came down to what I see as the strongest list design given the meta and balanced against the other lists.  I am not putting my own list up regardless of where I think it places but I am pretty happy with my list choices given what the field is brining.  Also with some of these lists I don’t actually know who is pushing them.  I know some and have made educated guesses with others.  So without further ado…. Just a note these are not really in top 5 order as there wasn't much between them. 


1.   Rory Finnemore/Skaven You would have to be living under a rock away from the internet not have heard Rory’s challenge that he will take skaven and prove how broken they are… I actually had a hand in this by posting the list, a list I have used before and borrowed from Ben Johnson in the UK.  Make no mistakes this list is a power house.  It has all the toys to deal with all comers.  Tales of Skaven decline are unfounded and they are still the best army in Warhammer.  The only thing Rory might struggle with is the special rules of the skaven and getting 6 turns in.      


Grey Seer - General                                                  
Screaming Bell
                                                    
Power Scroll                                                  
Fencers Blades                                    
Skalm                                                           
(Lore – Plague/Ruin)

Warlock Engineer Lvl 1                                 
Dispel Scroll                                                 
(Lore – Ruin)

Warlock Engineer Lvl 1                                 
Doom Rocket                                                
(Lore – Ruin)

Assassin                                    
Sword of Anti-heroes                                    
Other Tricksters Shard                                  
Dragonbane Gem                                         

Assassin                                            
Weeping Blade                                               
Potion of Strength                                        

Chieftain BSB                                               
Great Weapon                                              

37 Stormvermin, full command                                          
Storm Banner                                                 
Doom-Flayer                                                

40 Skaven Slaves, Paw Leader, Musician      
40 Skaven Slaves, Paw Leader, Musician      
41 Skaven Slaves, Musician                          
5 Giant Rats, 1 Pack Leader                          
5 Giant Rats, 1 Pack Leader                          
2 Rat Swarms                                               
2 Rat Swarms                                               

8 Gutter-Runners with poison and slings      

Warp Lightning Cannon                                
Hell Pit Abomination      

2.   Sam Whitt/Orcs and Goblins – another member of the Warhammer Celebrity group (we really are that good!) Sam Whitt rocks in with this well thought out and extremely tough O&G list.  It has the counters to many of the lists in the meta and I think can do extremely well.  There are several “maverick” O&G’s lists but this has combat, magic, shooting and the chaff from hell.  Look for Sam to be up there on day 2.    

LORDS
Black Orc Warboss
General
Sword of Striking
Enchanted Shield
Talisman of Preservation
Crown of Command
Savage Orc Great Shaman
Big Waagh

Level 4 upgrade

Lucky Shrunken Head
Ruby Ring of Ruin

HEROES
Goblin Big Boss
BSB
Spider Banner
Goblin Big Boss
Wolf
Spear
Light Armour
Shield
Dragonhelm
Goblin Big Boss

Great Weapon
Night Goblin Big Boss
Great Weapon
Night Goblin Big Boss
Great Weapon
CORE
35 Savage Orcs
Big Unz
Bows
Standard
Musician
Boss
35 Night Goblins
Shields
Netters
Standard
Musician
Boss
SPECIAL
8 Trolls
Goblin Spear Chukka
Goblin Spear Chukka
Goblin Wolf Chariot
Goblin Wolf Chariot
Goblin Wolf Chariot
RARE
Goblin Rock Lobba
Doom Diver
Doom Diver
Mangler Squig
Mangler Squig
Snotling Pumpwagon
Outrigger
Giant Exploding Spores


3.   Tim Joss – Chaos Dwarves My first round opponent and packing a rock solid list.  The magic lore was a key thing that just had it ahead of the other Chaos Dwarf list and the extra war machines.  This list will give people a lot of problems and I expect Tim to do well. 

Lords

Sorcerer Prophet
General

Level 4 upgrade

Bale Taurus

Dispel Scroll

Charmed Shield

Tailsman of Preservation

Lore of Hashut

Heroes

Dark Castellean
BSB

Battle Standard

Mask of the Furnace

Shield

Daemonsmith Sorcerer

Chalice of Blood and Darkness
Lore of Fire

Hobgoblin Khan

Wolf

Core

29 Infernal Guard

Deathmask

Musician

Standard

Naptha Bomb

20 Hobgoblins

Musician

Bows

20 Hobgoblins

Musician

Standard

Bows

Special

Deathshrieker Rocket

Deathshrieker Rocket


Magma Cannon

3 Bull Centaour Renders

Shields

Rare

K'daai Destroyer



                         

4. Ross Hillier-Jones/ Warriors of Chaos What am I doing putting Ross in the top 5?!  All jokes aside I think this is hands down the best WOC list at the event.  What Ross does with it is another matter!  The Daemon Prince is a potential nightmare for armies and he has kitted him out to deal with one of the main hard counters metal magic.  If he can survive cannons early and make combat this guy is a beast. He is backed up by a solid core choice and excellent combat punch in the skull crushers in a unit of 5.    

Daemon Prince
General
235
530
Flaming Breath
30
Scaled Skin
20
Soul Feeder
10
Sword of Striking
15
Charmed Shield
5
Dragonbane Gem
5
Chaos Armour
20
Daemonic Flight
40
Daemon of Nurgle
10
Level 4 Wizard
140

Lore of Nurgle


Heroes
230
Exalted Hero
110
230

Talisman of Preservation
45


Third Eye of Tzeentch
10


Mark of Tzeentch
10

Disc of Tzeentch
30
Battle Standard Bearer
25
170
Chaos Sorcerer
110
170
Dispel Scroll
25
Level 2 Wizard
35
Lore of Metal
Core
375
17 Chaos Warriors
238
375
Full Command
30
Gleaming Pennant
5
Mark of Nurgle
34
Shields
17
Halberds
51
30
5 Chaos Warhounds
30
30
75
5 Marauder Horsemen
70
75
Mark of Slaanesh
5
120
Chaos Chariot
110
120
Mark of Khorne
10
Special
275
Chimera
230
275
Flaming Breath
30
Regerating Flesh
15
Rare
385
5 Skullcrushers of Khorne
375
385
Lances
10
210
Hellcannon
210
210



5.   Rich Barby – Chaos Dwarves again a very tough chaos dwarf list that a lot of people won’t have played and so can do horrible things to people.  Death over Hashut is an interesting choice and I think could do well.  The wolf riders as chaff I also like as a nice touch. 

Sorcerer Prophet
General

Level 4 upgrade

Bale Taurus

Earthing Rod

Charmed Shield

Tailsman of Preservation

Lore of Death

Heroes

Dark Castellean
BSB

Battle Standard

Mask of the Furnace



Daemonsmith Sorcerer

Chalice of Blood and Darkness
Lore of Fire

Hobgoblin Khan

Wolf

Lt Armour + Spear

Hobgoblin Khan


Wolf

Lt Armour + Spear

Hobgoblin Khan

Additional Hand Wapon


Core

32 Infernal Guard

Deathmask

Musician

Standard

20 Hobgoblins

Musician

Standard

Bows

20 Hobgoblins

Musician

Standard

Bows

Special

Deathshrieker Rocket

Hellbound

Rare

K'daai Destroyer

Hell Cannon




 A couple of the vamp lists came close as did a couple of the Daemon lists (Pappa Nurgle) and of course the ogre lists could have made this list but here you have my top 5!  Let me know your thoughts, did I get it right/wrong? Two Chaos Dwarves in the top 5.. just proves how broken they are!     

12 comments:

  1. No arguments from me. The two CD lists and the Skaven are optimum builds. Yours and TVR's Ogres are also well positioned.

    The other interesting thing is that the difference in power level between the top 10-15 lists and the rest is incredible.

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    1. yeah totally agree Jeff expect Tom VR to do well and I also fancy my list in the meta. Unfortunately unless it all goes really tits up I'm not going to get to play any of those weaker lists as there are some 20-0's kicking around down there! I can't believe there is a list with no BsB..

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  2. 2 in the top 5 finally Chaos Dwarfs are on top after all those years of 2 page army books and fan boys lists. must be guilt from gw for leaving us out for so long.

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  3. you picked 5th i got 5th any chance of picking me a bit higher next time. 3 from 5 not bad mate

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    1. ha ha, not a chance with those filthy Chaos Dwarves!

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    2. Well, if you hadn't got greedy and Purple Sun'd your General into the void in the last turn of our game, those 2 extra points might have moved you up.

      Blair

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    3. didnt need to cast it but ok may as well dead lord dead ride gift wrap 700 points

      thanks for the game mate

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  4. Great work, how'd the predictions wash out in the end? Jossinator first, how'd the rest go? couldn't get near the spreadsheet at the finish >.<

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    1. Cheers Dan, and well played today mate. Jossy 1st, Ross HC, 2nd you 3rd John W with the Brets 4th which is a great effort. I think I was 6th or 7th looking at the spreadsheet it was pretty tight at the top and massively happy to finish top 10 given the last game!

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    2. Mate you did well, your dice turned on you and refused to give you any chance. You did the right things, so don't be too glum, once the dice decide they're going to destroy you, you can't stop em :( Well done on your placing man.

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  5. cheers Dan, you played very well though mate and I underestimated the damage output and resilience of those chariots

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    1. i found dans list was a bit msu but everything hits like a sledge hammer

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